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Dwarven Weaponry

Postby ajgoodwin8194 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:38 pm

I was reading the Hobbit the other day, and found, (to my great surprise), a passage, before the battle of the five armies, that said the Dwarf warriors that came with Dain, at Thorin's request, carried large mattocks on their back! I was just wondering about people's ideas regarding this. Such as; did they use them as weapons? Or did they just carry them on their backs to help dig up the Lonely Mountain when they got there?
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Re: Dwarven Weaponry

Postby albanaeon » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:21 pm

Well, there were military pick and the like that were basically modifications to mattocks for warfare. They did have the advantage of concentrating all the force of a blow on a small pointed area, which made them good against heavy armor. An actual mattock, however, wouldn't be all that great as a weapon. While you can get a massive blow with one, its extremely forward focused weight would continually be throwing you off balance or overextending you, which is fatal in a fight. So my guess would be that either the dwarves were carrying military picks or were preparing for excavation. Considering they might already be thinking of sieges for defending the Lonely Mountain, I think the second option is right.
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Re: Dwarven Weaponry

Postby ajgoodwin8194 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:27 pm

Sorry to revive an extremely old and quite dead thread, but I was reading through the appendixes of the RotK and I noticed that during the great battle between the dwarves and orcs, it said that Azog noticed that the dwarves were ripping his men apart with their mattocks. I guess that kinda settles my question then. :)
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Re: Dwarven Weaponry

Postby Tuisko » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:32 pm

I'd guess dwarves would manufacture light enought mattocks, that they could be used both a tool and a weapon (by a dwarf). In a same way as their axes are probably made: I don't think dwarves had axes made only for war (exept perhaps the kings and their men), but they used probably woodworking-axes as weapons.

I don't know, though, if a stone-working tool can be made light enough for a weapon, and still durable enough for stone-hacking... perhaps with dwarven steel?

By the way, I have a plan to convert some dwarven rangers with mattocks of some sort. That would be a good way to make warriors look a bit different, too - for example those Iron Hills veterans.
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Re: Dwarven Weaponry

Postby Stephen Tennyson » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:47 am

Bofurs packing a mattock in the new Hobbit film:
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and it is sung that the axe smoked in the black blood of the troll-guard of Gothmog until it withered and each time that he slew Hurin cried 'Aure entuluva! Day shall come again!' Seventy times he uttered that cry; but they took him at last alive...
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