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What to buy?

Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:02 pm

I've been out of the game since 2003 and don't have many models at this point. I'm starting over as more of a hobbyist and I'll be looking to paint, play and collect. That being said, one of my goals is to get my fiancé playing with me. What would you recommend buying at this point. I'd like to spend 150$ at the most for now.

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Re: What to buy?

Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:49 am

Depends on what you're interested in. Its a very vague, open ended question and so you'll get vague answers or answers that more often than not will reflect the personal preferences of who ever answers the question.

Do you particularly like any of the Midde Earth races and factions? Gondor, Rohan, Mordor...Have you seen the new Hobbit films or read the books? Which characters are your favourite? A good starting point is simply to decide who your favourite characters are, then get some troops for them to lead.

Have your fiance watch the movies with you and ask who her favourite characters and races are. Does she like elves? Orcs? The Rohirrim?

The Desolation of Smaug (2nd Hobbit film) introduces a new female character called Tauriel, who leads the Mirkwood Rangers. GW's new models for the Mirkwood Rangers include several female elves. If your fiance wants some girl-power - female characters and models, then I'd reccommend the Mirkwood elves. You can then add in Arwen of Rivindell too.

Tauriel
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970005a&prodId=prod2330077a

Legolas
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970005a&prodId=prod2330075a

Mirkwood Rangers
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970005a&prodId=prod2330081a

Ranger captains
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970005a&prodId=prod2330085a

King Thranduil
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970005a&prodId=prod2330083a

Palace Guard Captains
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970005a&prodId=prod2330087a

Palace Guards
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod2330097a



A good themed opposing force would be the Hunter Orc faction lead by Azog and co. The elves and the orcs fight several times in the film.

Azog
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970015a&prodId=prod2130118a

Yazneg
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Narzug
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970015a&prodId=prod1830028a

Fimbul
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970015a&prodId=prod1830032a

Orc General (the old version of Bolg)
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970015a&prodId=prod1830024a

Wargs
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970015a&prodId=prod1830100a

Warg Riders
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970015a&prodId=prod1830020a

Hunter Orcs
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat970015a&prodId=prod1830018a

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Re: What to buy?

Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:30 am

We did watch the newest Hobbit movie and she loved it. I figured it would be a good time to get back in the game. My last series was the original ROTK models, but I was pretty inexperienced. I shy away from the newer models because of the price, however, they do look great. I used to play as Mordor, but never had the finances to really improve much. I have thought about trying to play as the rangers of gondor or possibly isengard. At this point, I was even considering purchasing the Goblintown pack because it seems to be the best deal. I also will need some basic paints. Is there a preferred non Gamesworkshop brand of hobby paint, or is the original stuff that much better?

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Re: What to buy?

Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:13 am

Vallejo is a very good alternative, with a HUGE range of colours and shades. So many in fact that some are quite difficult to tell apart.

If you're in the UK, look for a Boyes store, thats where I get my Vallejo paints.

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Re: What to buy?

Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:48 am

It's good to note that GW paints are quite much thicker than Vallejo. I guess they are ment for a bit different approach, lots of layering on the bright undercoating and such. So your normal GW approach of dark undercoating, base colour and drybrushing doesn't work that well with them. I have a few GW paints for undercoating and base colours, and have a bigger range of Vallejo for the actual shades.

For the figures, you can surely mix and mach freely if you are just playing with you fiancé. Tauriel with Lotr wood elves could be a budget choice, for exaple. I don't yet have the new rules, but I'm under the impression that they are quite well balanced with the Lotr rules, so they should mix quite well. If you get Lotr figures from ebay, they can be quite a lot cheaper than Hobbit stuff.

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Re: What to buy?

Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:46 am

I'm surprised nobody has suggested that CTBowes just buy the starter set. It's got Thorin's company, Radagast and a playable Goblin force, and most importantly, the rules. Profiles can be downloaded from the GW website. Just add in a box of Erebor Dwarf warriors and Grim Hammers, and have Balin and Dwalin lead them, and you've got two armies that are about the same points-wise for points match games, as well as several scenarios. From there on, you could then expand.
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Re: What to buy?

Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:09 pm

GrashnarTheSecond wrote:I'm surprised nobody has suggested that CTBowes just buy the starter set. It's got Thorin's company, Radagast and a playable Goblin force, and most importantly, the rules. Profiles can be downloaded from the GW website. Just add in a box of Erebor Dwarf warriors and Grim Hammers, and have Balin and Dwalin lead them, and you've got two armies that are about the same points-wise for points match games, as well as several scenarios. From there on, you could then expand.


Possibly because as much fun as the goblin town set is, its pretty useless to build an army from. With no good troops at all, and very cheap evil ones you will need to buy a lot of the expensive hobbit models to make a force at a playable points value. The good side force is nigh unplayable outside of the box set scenarios and again you will need to invest a lot in dwarf troops in order to be able to play a standard size game (and even then only three of your heroes can actually be used to lead warbands: Thorin, Balin & Dwalin).
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Re: What to buy?

Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:04 pm

Spiney Norman wrote:
GrashnarTheSecond wrote:I'm surprised nobody has suggested that CTBowes just buy the starter set. It's got Thorin's company, Radagast and a playable Goblin force, and most importantly, the rules. Profiles can be downloaded from the GW website. Just add in a box of Erebor Dwarf warriors and Grim Hammers, and have Balin and Dwalin lead them, and you've got two armies that are about the same points-wise for points match games, as well as several scenarios. From there on, you could then expand.


Possibly because as much fun as the goblin town set is, its pretty useless to build an army from. With no good troops at all, and very cheap evil ones you will need to buy a lot of the expensive hobbit models to make a force at a playable points value. The good side force is nigh unplayable outside of the box set scenarios and again you will need to invest a lot in dwarf troops in order to be able to play a standard size game (and even then only three of your heroes can actually be used to lead warbands: Thorin, Balin & Dwalin).


The Goblin town Goblins become incredibly useful when paired with Moria -especially their heroes. A Goblin King powered by Channelled Fury is incredibly hard to take down (as if he wasn't bad enough on his own) and Grinnah's Swap with Me is another one of those amazingly handy abilities.
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Re: What to buy?

Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:25 pm

I had considered the starter set but wondered the same thing. I wish Games Workshop would release a dwarf vs. Hunter Orc set similar to the original starter set. I've been trolling Ebay looking for some deals.

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Re: What to buy?

Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:04 pm

What GW should do, is offer themed bundles of opposing forces e.g. Mirkwood Elves vs Hunter Orcs with a small discount of 10% - 20%.

But this is GW we're talking about and common sense has no power here.

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