Isengard - 600 pts, feedback appreciated!

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Isengard - 600 pts, feedback appreciated!

Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:34 pm

I'd love it if some of you could weigh in on the lists I have below.

I haven't been playing for a few years, and now I'm headed for a local tournament of all things. As I don't have whole lot of time my lists have to stick close to what I currently own, with a couple of exceptions like a few new "heroes" to lead the warbands or other minor additions.
I suppose a lot of it boils down to wether or not I should go with the troll or four slightly smaller warbands? As well as how heavily I should rely on Berserkers and such over "stock" Uruks?

List 1:
Warband 1
Vrasku
8 Uruk-hai Warriors w/crossbow

Warband 2
Captain w. Shield and H. Armour
10 Uruk-hai Warriors (5 w/shield, 5 w/pike)
1 Isengard Troll

Warband 3
Uruk-hai Shaman
3 Berserkers
1 Feral Uruk-hai
8 Uruk-hai Warriors (8 w/pike)

600pts

List 2:
Warband 1
Vrasku
7 Uruk-hai Warriors w/crossbow

Warband 2
Captain w. Shield and H. Armour
7 Uruk-hai Warriors (3 w/shield, 4 w/pike)

Warband 3
Captain w. Shield and H. Armour
7 Uruk-hai Warriors (3 w/shield, 4 w/pike)
1 Feral Uruk Hai

Warband 4
Uruk-hai Shaman
4 Uruk Hai Berserkers
8 Uruk-hai Warriors (8 w/pike)

599pts



I'm all ears as far as alternate suggestions or tweaks go.

Models I own: 30 Uruk-hai warriors(15 shield, 15 pike) 8 Crossbow Uruks, 1 Isengard Troll, 5 Uruk-hai Berserkers,
1 Captain w. Heavy Armour and Shield, 1 Uruk w. Banner, 8 Uruk Sappers.

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Re: Isengard - 600 pts, feedback appreciated!

Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:48 am

Hi
In case your previous games were under the old rules, you should be aware that monsters like trolls are now much, MUCH more powerful than they used to be. Hurling models around is fantastic.

On the otherhand, archery is somewhat less powerful (because armies start close together). Crossbows still shine though, I'd never leave home without a few, but there is less need to pack in a full 33%.

Both of your armies are already good, and IMHO they are competitive.

I'd suggest adding Sharku and a couple of wargs, but since you don't own any here is a list with the minor tweaks I would make:
Armour on the shaman, different ratio of pikes to shields in the troll warband (assuming the troll and captain will be on the front line and require pike support), and dropping ferals and zerks for uruks in order to keep the model count high despite the inclusion of a monster.


Squad (9#, 148 pts)
1 Warband, 0 pts
1 Vrasku, 60 pts
8 Uruk-hai Warrior, 88 pts = 8 * 11 (base cost 9 + Crossbow 2)

Squad (13#, 275 pts)
1 Warband, 0 pts
1 Uruk-hai Captain, 60 pts = (base cost 50 + Heavy Armour 5 + Shield 5)
1 Isengard Troll, 105 pts
4 Uruk-hai Warrior, 40 pts = 4 * 10 (base cost 9 + Shield 1)
7 Uruk-hai Warrior, 70 pts = 7 * 10 (base cost 9 + Pike 1)

Squad (13#, 175 pts)
1 Warband, 0 pts
1 Uruk-hai Shaman, 55 pts = (base cost 50 + Armour 5)
6 Uruk-hai Warrior, 60 pts = 6 * 10 (base cost 9 + Shield 1)
6 Uruk-hai Warrior, 60 pts = 6 * 10 (base cost 9 + Pike 1)


That's 3 heroes, 35 models total, 1 monster and 10 crossbow shots.

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Re: Isengard - 600 pts, feedback appreciated!

Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:01 am

This might not be as clever but just look at all the berserkers.

Mauhúr
6 Uruk-hai Berserkers
3 Orc spears
3 Uruk-hai Pikes

Lurtz,
6 Uruk-hai Berserkers
6 Orc Spears

Ugluk
6 Uruk-hai Berserkers
1 Uruk Banner
5 Orc Spears

39 MODELS! 18 BERSERKERS!
Rarr.

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Re: Isengard - 600 pts, feedback appreciated!

Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:35 pm

Thanks for the pointers Matt! Nice to know I'm not terribly wrong in my own thinking as well. It'll be fun to take for a spin!

And Dain, I have seen a couple of similar lists, suffice to say they intrigue me. Something to work towards, right? ;)

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Re: Isengard - 600 pts, feedback appreciated!

Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:16 am

Dain's list is insane. It probably isn't as good as the others, but it does look fun :D

Rarr.

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