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Change in rules?

Postby Jedydier99 » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:08 pm

Sorry but I am a bit confused as soon as WD comes through the door, I read it got exited about the new easterling models then came to the Battle Report and it says someting about warbands and gainjng might points from killing heroes. So I look for the answer online and find this place and well, what are the changes to feilding armies.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby hithero » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:13 pm

Basically there are a few model profile changes and some new ones. There is no longer a model limit but you have to organise your army into warbands where you have one hero to lead up to 12 model Warriors. In the scenarios you deploy warbands rather than individually. The gaining of Might is just one of the special rules in one of the scenarios.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby Eldarion Telcontar » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:18 pm

Warbands govern how you select your armies, much like Legions of Middle Earth (now obsolete).

Basically, for every 12 Warriors, you must take a Hero to "lead" them. Note, they don't actually become one unit or squad, each and every model still acts as an individual in the game, except for deployment. Heroes may only "lead" Warriors from the same army list.; e.g. Captains of Rohan can only lead models from the Rohan army lists. As I understand it, the bow limit applies to individual Warbands (so only 4 of every 12 models can have bows). I'm not sure though. Warbands may be from different army lists but those lists must be able to be allied together.

Example.

I select Boromir as Hero 1. I can then take up to 12 warriors from his army list, such as Citadel Guard, Minas Tirith warriors, Guards of the Fountain court.

1. Boromir of the White Tower.
-4 Citadel Guard with longbows.
-8 Citadel Guard with spears.

2. Captain of Minas Tirith.
-8 Warriors of Minas Tirith with shield.
-4 Warriors of Minas Tirith with shield and spear.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby Isilduin » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:35 pm

Eldarion Telcontar wrote:As I understand it, the bow limit applies to individual Warbands (so only 4 of every 12 models can have bows). I'm not sure though.


Nah it's across each allied faction still. so you can have a warband of all bows if you want, as long as you have two warbands with no bows from the same army list.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby hithero » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:47 am

Both wrong :)
It's 1/3 across thec combined warband Warriors from the same list. If you ally in warbands from other army lists then these count seperate for the bow rule.

Example: we have 3 warbands of 12 dwarves (36) and an allied warband of 12 elves. This means you can have 12 dwarf archers and 4 elf archers.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby Eldarion Telcontar » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:01 pm

hithero wrote:Both wrong :)
It's 1/3 across thec combined warband Warriors from the same list. If you ally in warbands from other army lists then these count seperate for the bow rule.

Example: we have 3 warbands of 12 dwarves (36) and an allied warband of 12 elves. This means you can have 12 dwarf archers and 4 elf archers.


I think thats what Isilduin meant. Thats more or less how LOME worked.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby Jedydier99 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:36 pm

So legions of middle earth is not being used anymore.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby Eldarion Telcontar » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:43 pm

apparently not.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby Isilduin » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:02 pm

Eldarion Telcontar wrote:
hithero wrote:Both wrong :)
It's 1/3 across thec combined warband Warriors from the same list. If you ally in warbands from other army lists then these count seperate for the bow rule.

Example: we have 3 warbands of 12 dwarves (36) and an allied warband of 12 elves. This means you can have 12 dwarf archers and 4 elf archers.


I think thats what Isilduin meant. Thats more or less how LOME worked.


Yep exactly what I meant. Also, bow limit rounds up now. So technically you can have up to 39% bows if you build well. The example in the book is good, you take the number of warriors from each army list, divide by 3, round up and that's your bow limit for that allied faction.
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Re: Change in rules?

Postby lotrchampion » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:53 pm

Short answer: Legions of Middle-earth and the old LotR sourcebooks are now replaced. There are 5 faction books, each with all the new composition rules and scenarios in, so even if you just pick up one, you'll get the scoop on the way the new system plays. I'd recommend grabbing at least the one for your main army, although obviously one of each is helpful if you regularly play with different armies, or for that matter, against different armies - nothing like knowing your enemy!
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